How can I get a dark dramatic eye without using any eye liner on my upper lid?

I'm pretty good with make up except when it comes to putting eye liner on my upper eye lids...then I really stink. I'm great at eye liner when it comes to the bottom of the eye, but on top I tend to make too thick of a line, or make it too dark...whatever it is, it never looks the way I want it to. I'm a big fan of the dark/smokey eye, not too dramatic, but still hot. How can I achieve this look without using eye liner, and without looking gothy.How can I get a dark dramatic eye without using any eye liner on my upper lid?
I tend to use a eyeliner pencil for the end of my eyelids and smugde it. Then i get a really thin liquid eyeliner and draw a thin line keeping the brush very close to my eyelashes.





If im not bothered but dnt want my eyes to look plain, i get a good mascara, brush my eyelashes downwards so that my eyes look ';hooded'; and i brush the last eyelashes on my eyelid outwards and the lashes i have at the front (near the bridge of your nose) i brush that towards my nose.





So towards my nose, middle lashes are brushed downwards to get the hooded look, and the last eyelashes (they tend to be the longest ones) i brush them outwards towards my ear and make them look flicked out.





I have very long eyelashes so its easy but u can use fake lashes if you want.How can I get a dark dramatic eye without using any eye liner on my upper lid?
Use black shadow like an eye liner and then blend it into your smokey eye. Filling in your water line with black will help deminish any noticable difference between your regular liner and the eye shadow.





Also, if you want a less goth looking smokey eye avoid using a lot of black. In fact a smokey eye can be achieved with any color (right now mine's a blue). The goth look champions using black all over the eye lid and all the way into the crease. Tone it down by breaking up the color. Use medium grey on the eye lid, light grey in the crease, and a skin complimenting (I'm black so things vary) light eyeshadow under the eyebrow. Blend really well. Then use black shadow as a thick eyeliner and blend.





Granted I went back and used fluidline eyeliner but realized that it didn't really make a difference. That's how I stumbled upon using black shadow as ';eyeliner'; when doing a smokey eye.
i know its kinda odd and i think im the only one who does it but i feel the same way about putting eyeliner on the top of my eyelid cause no matter what you can always see a space between ur eyelid and the eyeliner. so you know how you put eyeliner on like the pink part right down from your eye? like just above where your eyelashes grow? well theres one of those things on your top eyelid its just hard to see cause its pointing down. but i somehow manage to like pull my eyelid up and get it there and it looks even better then on the bottom cause its IMPOSSIBLE to tell that you have anything on so your eye just looks natuarally hot :)
get a really thin makeup brush and grey%26amp;silver eyeshadow





put the tip of the brush into the eyeshadow and shade in your eye lid about three or four times. right away your going to get that smokey effect. then take a dab of silver on the same brush and brush it along your brow bone. finish it off with a black eye shadow right in the crease of your eye. honestly,your going to have amazing results and the best looking ';smokey eyes';---for eyeliner use pencil. start in the pupil area and slowly go out if you feel like its getting to dark;stop and then continue/anything comes out better if you take your time[=





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-danielle-
The best way to get a smoky eye that won't run is to use waterproof or stay-put products. First use a cream shadow that won't budge to create the smoky look -- Benefit Creaseless Cream Shadow/Liner [$18, BenefitCosmetics.com] stays put for hours! I like the shade Skinny Jeans because it's a smoky gray that isn't too intense, but if you want a really dark eye, use Strut or Town Car. Apply it with your finger from your lashline to crease, and also along your bottom lashes for a smudgy effect. Finish with two coats of waterproof mascara. Try Maybelline New York Intense Volume XXL Waterproof Mascara in Black [$6, drugstores].
You'll definitely want to use the smoky-eyes effect. Just look for a dark colored eyeshadow, like gray or charcoal, and use a fine applicator or the best tool--- your finger. Smear it gently on your lower lid, gradually softening as you go up... I do this sometimes with subtle silver or dark gold, and i put a little bit on the outer and inner corners.
Use an angle brush and gray eyeshadow. It is a lot easier to use then eyeliner. You can either wet the brush or keep it dry, dip it in powder, then line eyes. Once you line your eyes with it, blend into eyelids and also use some gray eyeshadow on the lids. Then use several coats of black mascara.
black eyeshadow


or a dark purple is always dramatic


also in the corner closest to your nose use a light light color to make the dark color more dramatic


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Food coloring and vaseline (petroleum jelly). Mix it first, and then apply with fingers...
Practice with the eyeliner or use dark eye shadow and blend it out
well, makeup is the only way unless you could make a whole another look, that's about the only way.








hope this helped.
well smokey eyes are suppose to be thick, try eyeshadow the ones that has 3 colors in one plate thing, light,medium,dark.
check out youtube gurus
Applying eyeliner to the upper lid can be difficult-it's an awkward area to put eyeliner on, and it's sensitive. To achieve the dramatic smokey eye look, (without over-doing it, of course), you'll need a compact with three or four monochromatic colors. You can potentially do the smokey eye with any color, as long as you have a dark and medium of that color, and a very light color that blends well. Just use the colors that suit your eye color best.





Anyway, rather than using a black (or dark of any other color) eyeliner on your upper lid, use that same color in eyeshadow. You will get a very dramatic effect that will blend into the other colors of eyeshadow better than eyeliner will. The key to the smokey eye is to keep everything soft and blended, yet dramatic. Use medium shades of eyeshadow for a good dramatic eye without over-doing it.





Watching a tutorial to do this is very helpful to make the process easier, and the outcome look better. This is my favorite tutorial-she shows a good, not-too-dramatic smokey eye in a simple way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnJ8B0Ay鈥?/a>





Good luck, and most importantly, have fun!