How do u get eye liner on top of ur lid ?

i know how to its just that its hard..How do u get eye liner on top of ur lid ?
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I've always found it difficult to get a nice thin straight line. The answer seems to be to get a dark eyeshadow, say steely grey and apply it with a damp cotton bud across the top lash line so it loooks a little smudged and smoky. Alternatively try a chunky pencil like Avon's big colour eye pencil instead of a thin one or liquid liner.
i put my pointer finger that i'm not holding the pencil with on the outside corner next to my eye and pull down towards my ear so that the skin is stretched and in a straight line and then i hold the pencil or brush so that it makes a 45 degree angle against my head and start at the inside corner and work out. does this make sense? lol





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here's how i do it:





i close one eye and hold it down gently by the lashes. then i do a thin line of eyeliner as close as i can get to the lashes.





yeah at first it was hard, but soon u'll get the hang of it!





hope this helped.
hold down your lashes not you eyelid, then draw a straight line from your inner corner of your eye to the center of your eyelid. Then draw another line from the outer corner of your eye to the center. there you go hope that helped
Close your eye, pull your eyelid to the side slightly(towards the outer part of your face), and apply. it keeps your eyelid from moving so it makes it so much easier to apply.
you hold down you lashes with one hand, and keep your other eye open so you can what your doing,then with your writing hand apply a line of it across your lid
I close my eye and pull the outside corner of my eye out. so it's really smooth...
lotoin does the trick. so does make-up remover